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Old Jun 02, 2005, 08:28 PM // 20:28   #41
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If someone knows so little that they would do that i doubt your going to get anywhere with them.
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Old Jun 02, 2005, 08:45 PM // 20:45   #42
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My old guild used to do that when we would go into the guildhall battles saying that it would heal the whole and acting like they didn't know they we're using all chat it pissed me off to the point where i quit the guild over it

If you're not good enough to beat the other players then work harder and stop trying to trick people some people just don't use the key shortcuts in windows and so they don't know and how aggrivating would it be to get tricked into that in the middle of a GH battle and have your rating go down
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Old Jun 02, 2005, 08:48 PM // 20:48   #43
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This happened to me few weeks ago in arena beside Yakbend...
the guy from other team yell "press Alt-F4 to view other team stats"
guess what... someone quit... then i look at my team member.... all 4 are there!
someone from his team quit.. LOL
and i think it's amusing... and i agree to a few ppl that replied ...
i have no sympathy for ppl who don't know what ALT-F4 does...
i mean... it means exact same thing as "pull the power cord to view other team stats" ...to me.. at least
first of all.. why do u wanna take the advantage to view other team stats 10 seconds ahead....thats the greediness, if u see they are all lvl 20.. when u are only lvl 10 u think it's gonna help?
2nd .. i mean.. ALT-F4 is a standard command for M$ windows since windows 3.1... even my little cousin knows what it does... CTRL-Q doesnt' "ALWAYS" work..mostly some word processor or something... so... it's good to learn what ALT-F4 is....
I agree that action is cheap ... and childish..and i dont' agree someone should do that... but... it's not a big deal... is a game.. and it's really sad that someone actually fall for that.. REALLY REALLY SAD... sometimes u have to pay a small price to learn.... that's life
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Old Jun 02, 2005, 08:49 PM // 20:49   #44
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Why do people take this so serious? Its just a joke no one holds the hall for hours with this "exploit" .....
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Old Jun 02, 2005, 08:56 PM // 20:56   #45
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TECHNICALLY speaking, the programmers CAN trap the Alt-F4 key combination. They won't though, and that is a funny trick. (I haven't encountered it yet. lol)
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Old Jun 02, 2005, 09:01 PM // 21:01   #46
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I used to tell people to hit Alt XXX to make games go naked way back when.. probably like 15 years ago...

I grew out of that way back when too, games werent MMO back then so my fun would end when someone fell for that too.

Seriously though, trying to get an advantage from that in games where it actually matters is pretty weak, at least way back when I did it there werent actual statistics kept for any games or anything.

Anyone older than like 8 or 10 thats trying to get an advantage of this is a pretty sad player, straight up.

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Old Jun 02, 2005, 09:25 PM // 21:25   #47
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Heh. I think you mean "+++" which was the old modem command to disconnect.
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Old Jun 02, 2005, 09:54 PM // 21:54   #48
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I'm so glad you were here sitting with me yesterday while I played so you could speak from such a position of authority. NOT.

Did I say it was a BUG!!! No my complaint which you apparently DID NOT read was about the people who make that statement so that others quit their game inadvertantly.
ah you see i didn't mean that you where the one logging the bug or that you claimed it as a bug. I was simply making a little skit to show how it must look for someone who doesn't know about alt-F4. Usually when someone thinks they have just learned something really cool and new they will try it a few times to see if they can make it work....didn't mean to hurt your feel bads...
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Old Jun 02, 2005, 10:10 PM // 22:10   #49
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It may be poor sportsmanship but they won the fight, didn't they? If I could talk the other team into alt f4ing I would. Sure, it's not really a "fair" strategy but it's not like you made them stupid.. they were born that way.
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Old Jun 02, 2005, 11:33 PM // 23:33   #50
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The only thing I can think of is having an "Are you sure?" dialog appear when you press alt+f4, but I think that key stroke overrides anything, so I doubt it will work.
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Old Jun 03, 2005, 12:23 AM // 00:23   #51
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As for your oppinion people somehow deserve it. IMPO you should get off your high horse and stop being a selfrightous --- . Its poor sportsmanship wheather you feel they should Know something or not. But yeah all ya can really do is laugh after the fact, but to think people deserve it is kinda stupid again IMPO.
Damn. Guess telling people that drinking bleach will help their framerates is not a good idea because just maybe someone is going to do it.

What next? A message in the log in window that tells users to avoid hitting the alt-f4 keys? It will end up like instructions on the back of a shampoo bottle if people are dumb like this.
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Old Jun 03, 2005, 12:42 AM // 00:42   #52
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Just because your on opposing teams in an online game doesn't mean they're trick you out of winning no matter what, kinda sad when you can't even have alittle banter with your opponant in a simple match.

So I don't see why you should never ever listen to a word someone from other team says. I understand tombs is competitive, but it's not a genuine cash prize tournament.

And anyone who thinks you don't have the right to be somewhere without knowing every little keyboard shortcut, press Alt+X right now... really.
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Old Jun 03, 2005, 03:20 AM // 03:20   #53
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Ahahahahahahaa!!!

If you are to dumb to know that Alt+F4 closes a program I think you should be able to be ejected from the game. True scenario:
My Guildmate saysy in All: hey Shall isnt Alt=F4 a hax?
5 Koreans left
I was laughing hard
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Old Jun 03, 2005, 03:35 AM // 03:35   #54
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yes I do realize that not everyone knows windows commands... but this is the most common command next to ctrl alt dlt which used to do the same thing...

If someone doesn't know this, they drop. If they try it again they deserve to drop. If they try it after a warning then they deserve to drop.
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Old Jun 03, 2005, 03:46 AM // 03:46   #55
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People can do what they please, after all, it really is just a game. The people that hit alt F4 will learn. Guess that's what my father always meant by learning the hard way. I personaly think it's dishonest, unsportsmanlike and certainly not funny. I would never do it. Just my opinion
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Old Jun 03, 2005, 04:11 AM // 04:11   #56
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Believe me, if they are dumb enough to fall for it... They probably suck as a teammate. You need a certain degree of intelligent---even to play a game. This trick filter out the useless. Btw... Saying it show team stats is dumb, saying it turns on godmode is DUMBER... Why would anyone tell you stuff like this??? THINK man, THINK. It must be a trick!!! But the "try-it" in every idiot makes them... "try it". I laugh at idiots. Btw, a better way would have been.

Dude:"Hi, good luck and have fun!"
Idiot1:"I don't need luck"
Idiot2:"We will pwn yoo!"
Dude:"Are you serious? Do you know who I am?"
Idiot1:"No."
Idiot2:"A noob?"
Dude:"lol, you must be new, I am the top ladder player, everyone knows that!"
Idiot2:"sure"
Idiot1:"yo mamma"
Dude:"Trust me, fear my stats! Look at my 22 winning steak!"
Idiot2:"sure"
Idiot1:"liar"
Dude:"How can I lie?"
Idiot1:"Well, we can't check, moron!"
Dude:"lol, so you ARE new... hold alt-F4 to bring up an entry bar... then type my name to see my stats"
.............................
Idiot1 left the game.
Idiot2 left the game.
Dude:"gg"
Unluckydude:"Man, I didn't know my teammates were dumb enough to fall for that... Good Game!"
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Old Jun 03, 2005, 04:19 AM // 04:19   #57
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rofl!
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Old Jun 03, 2005, 05:53 AM // 05:53   #58
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How this can be shut down I do not know, but it needs to be. Maybe filtering the words.

However it is done, this should just not be allowed at all. The ALT-F4 announcement comes when in the Tombs. So here is the scenario. We get past the fight-the-monsters part, and are now waiting for the team rounds to begin. On local chat someone says "hit ALT-F4 to view team stats" or some other junk like that. We lost a few players that way even when we warned them not to do it and that ALT-F4 quits Guildwars because it is a Windows command not a GW command.

I realize not everyone is familiar with all the Windows keyboard shortcuts so the word needs to get out.

And the people who do this announcement....well I won't post here my feelings and thoughts on them.
lol if they fell for the Alt+F4 thing your party was probably better off without them. (No offense if you've ever fallen for it.) But this isn't that big of a problem, once they do it once they never do it again. This little trick is in all games with pvp in it. People will learn eventually. I learned it few years ago on D2. Soon the Alt+F4 thing wont work because everyone knows about it. Just give it some time and you wont see it as much.
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Old Jun 03, 2005, 06:26 AM // 06:26   #59
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Don't worry guys, the people getting upset over this probably get upset when their opponents call them names. Horror.

It's pretty amazing to me since the PvP atmosphere is actually pretty watered down compared to other games. Old-timey DAoC PvP server? Wow, you had to have some tough skin for that place.

Y'know, mobs don't talk back, if maybe those are more to your liking...
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yes...i like mobs...they're a high contact "sport" and no one needs to say a word other than "That way!" to get things rolling
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